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1/8/2002 -  jake, elizabeth, NJ writes ...
Democratic Hate Speech
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to jake

both parties look to exploit anything and everything they can for their personal agenda.neither party cares about you ,me or anything else but money and power. the little soap opera b.s. they keep us bickering over keeps us from recognizing whats really going on. and yes, if our nation had as little money as afghanistan, the religious right would probably be worse than the taliban.but we're all fat and happy so there is little danger of anyone seriosly taking the far religious right seriously( other than a small band of slack jawed dixie yokels). how anyone can be partisan and not independant is amazing to me.

3/25/2002 -  vs, Los Angeles, Ca, CA writes ...
Politics & Israel
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to vs

What is happening in our country? I don't understand why more articles aren't being written regarding what is happening in Israel.

It seems clear to me that Israel is attempting to draw the United States into war with its Arab neighbors. For us to become involved in this area would go against everything that we believe in. On what historical basis does the United States support Israel regarding its policy against the occupied area?

Every time we have gained territory because of a war effort, we returned the land to its people. Israel hasn't done this and has reaped a whirlwind through their policy of oppression. Not only has Israel refused to give back the occupied territory (after all, Israel did not have this portion of land before the 1964 war and keeping this area occupied has done nothing constructive for Israel or the people living in the occupied zone).

The best way to see the consequences of the result of escalating oppressive policy of Israel regarding the Palestinian in Jerusalem and in the occupied terroritories is by reading the protest of Naomi Chazan, which was published in the Jerusalem Post (I believe in 1996-97), under the heading, "End this oppression" --

Here is a portion of the article:

"Israel has no right to play games with Palestinian lives in this manner. Particularly in light of our history and essential values, we cannot justify uprooting people from their homes.

We cannot maintain such a policy yet continue to call ourselves a democracy; democracies do not flagrantly violate international laws like the Geneva Convention and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

This oppression policy must stop. The rights of those who have been expelled from their homes and separated from their families must be reinstated.

Integrity and justice demand that we develop a new definition of Palestinian residency in Jerusalem, one that does not expire with bureaucratic whim, that protects rather than tramples upon fundamental human rights.

Such a formulation, honouring equality and Jerusalem residents' basic rights, must acknowledge the inherent injustice in Israel's quiet but insidious efforts to depopulate East Jerusalem."

The occupied areas should be given back to the people it was taken away from and there should be a stop to the human rights abuses and policies of Israel toward that area.

And we should never agree to send troops into this area and by that move support and help institute such non-democratic policies.

Are we becoming immune to being shocked?

9/7/2002 -  gh, murfreesboro, TN writes ...
Buying off Victims, Selling out the Future
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to gh

I agree with the article. Back to the 'New Deal' the liberals and demo's have tried to make the people dependant on the goverment. Now a considerable part of the population believes it is the goverments job to take care of them when anything bad happens to them. There is no longer any responsibility for self. What happens when the pot is empty?

5/11/2003 -  PKT, San Jose, CA writes ...
Congressional Porkers Suddenly Stingy Over Photo-O
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to PKT

Liberals are often accused of not seeing the flaws in their philosophy or icons, but given the latest flap over Bush and the tailhook landing I think conservatives are guilty of the same shortsightedness. It was a staged stunt, the early reports from the White House about the carrier being 200 miles out at sea were outright lies, and military personnel were used for what was obviously a campaign photo op. Clinton was castigated over a haircut at the airport which supposedly delayed some commercial flights (a story that was later proven to be vastly overblown and false in many details) but Bush is cheered for wasting taxpayer money and using the military for blatant politics. The act was sleazy and self-promoting.

The whole carrier landing episode is just one more example of the Bush administration playing fast and loose with the truth and being more concerned with symbolism than substance. Remember the weapons of mass destruction? Bush even raised the specter of mushroom clouds when he gave reasons for going into Iraq. The spin now is if the weapons arenít found itís not that important because we have freed the Iraqi people. Now the gun sights are turned on Iran and once again the fear of WMD is being raised.

Are only liberals concerned about the fact that sweetheart deals are being given to handpicked companies? Billions of dollars were spent on the war and now billions are being spent to rebuild the country we bombed. Iíd rather seen a million welfare moms getting taxpayer largesse than the likes of Halliburton and Bechtel pocketing the money.

The US is in trouble and itís not because of terrorists. Our infrastructure needs rebuilding. Roads, bridges, sewage lines, water treatment plants, hospitals, schools and dozens of other public systems and institutions are eroding before our eyes but thereís no money available thanks to tax cuts and war spending. And there wonít be any money available for years to come as the debt grows. Bush talks about creating 1.4 million jobs with his tax cut but every day public sector jobs are being lost in the 50 states. Teachers, police, firefighters and others are being laid off because the states are nearly broke. Who made up that 1.4 million job figure? There is no proof a tax cut will create jobs. What are these jobs? Did Bechtel promise to hire X amount of people if it got a tax cut? Again, manipulation and lies by an administration that has dodged every hardball question and makes accusations of disloyalty every time policy is questioned.

Take a look at the record. Bush said he was opposed to nation building and now weíre undertaking the largest nation building project in history with both Iraq and Afghanistan. The president who said we should approach our allies with humility and not show arrogance has alienated our oldest friends with his youíre either for us or youíre against us attitude. Bush said we needed a tax cut to return the surpluses of the Clinton era to the people and then he said we need a tax cut to get the poor economy rolling. His economic policy, as one columnist said, is a one trick pony. Republicans who once championed a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution now talk about deficits with the same aplomb liberals were accused of.

Itís time to take the blinders off. The Bush administration has lied about the tailhook landing, it has lied about the weapons of mass destruction, it has lied about the sweetheart contracts in Iraq and it is lying about the 1.4 million jobs that will supposedly be created by the proposed tax cuts. I really miss the days of Barry Goldwater. There was conservative you could trust to do what he said and who stayed true to his principles.

3/14/2004 -  Bruce Obermeyer, Derby, KS writes ...
Document Suggestion
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to Bruce Obermeyer

On January 31, 1971, members of Vietnam Veterans Against the War (VVAW) met in a Detroit hotel to document war crimes that they had participated in or witnessed during their combat tours in Vietnam. During the next three days, more than 100 Vietnam veterans and 16 civilians gave anguished, emotional testimony describing hundreds of atrocities against innocent civilians in South Vietnam, including rape, arson, torture, murder, and the shelling or napalming of entire villages. The witnesses stated that these acts were being committed casually and routinely, under orders, as a matter of policy.

In April, the VVAW stormed Washington in a week-long protest. At the height of it, spokeman John Kerry went before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations to accuse the United States military of committing massive numbers of war crimes in Vietnam. The appearance launched Kerry's political career. The charges he made shocked and sickened a nation, changed the course of a war and stained the reputation of the American military for decades.

But the mass murder of civilians was never American policy in Vietnam. War crimes were the exception, not the rule. And the Winter Soldier tribunal itself -- which John Kerry had helped moderate -- turned out to be, in the words of historian Guenter Lewy, "packed with pretenders and liars." Mr. Lewy documented and exposed the fraud in a book entitled, "America in Vietnam", based in part on a Naval Investigative Service special report which was completed as ordered by the committee's chairman, Senator Mark Hatfield. That report has somehow "vanished" from the archives. I would very much like to find a copy of that report.

6/10/2005 -  TM, Chester, NJ writes ...
Senator George Voinovich
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to TM

Another typical professional politician. Like John Kerry, he too can say that he voted for it before he voted against it.

It is truely time to clean the slate.

1/18/2007 -  TM, Chester, NJ writes ...
Senate: Political Critics May Wind Up In Jail
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to TM

hehe - this was sponsored originally by Republicans. Once the GOP realizes how the Internet works - that it is not just a bunch of "pipes" - and realize they can actually use it to their advantage, they will regret this. But it seems that is a long way away for the GOP. They seem to have no clue. They still think it's an invention of Al Gore's to destroy them.

1/10/2011 -  TM, Chester, NJ writes ...
Murder in Tucson
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to TM

I agree, in principal, that this evil deed was not the product of the tea party, the right or the left.

However, this is the product of politics.

This is the product of the continued vitriol that is made constant by both parties and the 24x7 drive-by media.

This is the product of the continued hate speech by both parties against each other. The left calling the "radical right wing" evil. The right calling the left anti-American.

Both sides, along with both the liberal and conservative media, have fanned the flames of those that are disgruntled with the current state of politics, government and society.

Is the gunman ultimately responsible - absolutely. But are our politicians, media and apologists also guilty of encouragement and egging this type of imbalanced individual on - absolutely.

Time for all of us to grow up and accept that our own negative and attack messages just fuel these types of imbalanced people to take their thoughts and act on them.

5/28/2011 -  laurie colson, columbus, PA writes ...
Truth In Politics
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to laurie colson

"All truth passes through three stages.
First, it is ridiculed.
Second, ti is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

9/10/2012 -  TM, Chester, NJ writes ...
God Doesn't Belong In A Godless Party's Pl
      Post to Main Thread   Reply to TM

The Democratic Party is now nothing more than the "Progressive Party", where anything goes. This is most recently popularized by the director of "The Notebook" that said "...no one should judge a brother and sister being with each other if they are in love. Iím not saying this is an absolute but in a way, if youíre not having kids Ė who gives a damn? Love who you want. Isnít that what we say?".

Well, no, that is not what moral humans say - that is what "Progressives" say - those who apparently have absolutely no moral compass what-so-ever.

Why is it that the party of "tolerance" brands every opinion that is different than theirs a hate crime while they are offended by those that disapprove of their own opinions?

While there exists radicals on both sides of the fence, most Republicans believe that a person has a right to their opinion without being labeled a bigot, racist or hate crime individual.

But without limits based on a solid moral baseline, the downward spiral of our culture will have no end.

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